Quest for the perfect stove for cooking on board

[newfolboter]

Well, i guess my perspective is a little different being from the cold country. we have different things to contend with when kayaking in alaska. our biggest concern is bears when sleeping in our campsites. however, you can takes steps to minimize this. such as, not sleeping or cooking in the area of your food and keeping your campsite clean and yourself as well. also, camping well away from game trails. and, in salmons season, staying away from the areas that are obvious bear feeding areas. so, if you see bear tracks on the sandbar, find another sandbar! our seas here has such large tidal changes that you would feel as you sleep as though you were being flushed down a drain. 20+ft of water level change is not uncommon. hard to anchor and sleep in these conditions. i have visited the everglades and see what you mean. the world is different there. the water shallow, warm, and little tidal change. the temps are warm and not like the -20f outside my window this morning. summers here can be warm, dry, rainy, and cool. and, all in the same day! so, planning for all seasons here is a must to survive or at least stay comfortable. i guess that's what makes kayaking fun. the experiences involved, planning for them, and not only surviving, but thriving in these different environments.

[davekru]

I'm almost in your neighborhood, but I'm going to make a hard left before I get there and go to Baja California. Maybe we can get together on my way back up the coast. I'll shoot you an e-mail.

Hey, Ann, are you going with an outfitter or are you on your own down in Baja?

Very jealous up here in the rain!

[annd]

Hey, Ann, are you going with an outfitter or are you on your own down in Baja?

Very jealous up here in the rain!

I just saw a weather map of the west coast. There's a big swirly hurricany thing pointed right at you! Yikes.

I'm going on my own to Baja California this time. I went with an outfitter on a 10-day tour last October. We had no wind to speak of, but I know how dangerous the sudden gales can be, so I'm not sure if I'll work up the nerve to do more than day paddles. I hear you can get pinned down for 5 days at a time, with no warning at all. Assuming you're lucky enough to already be safely on shore when the wind hits.

[bikelaneguy]

To: SwampGirl

I have been using two bottles, the balck Ozark Trail (Wal-mart) bottle and the red MSR fuel bottle. The black bottle will heat about 10 F (about 5 C) hotter in the same time as the red MSR bottle. The MSR red paint is shiny and the metal is thicker. I sanded the black paint of the Wal-mart bottle to take off the shine and the black bottle also holds about 10% more. The black bottle is made for beverages and the mouth is a little larger and at $4.00 a little cheaper. Overall I consider the Wal-Mart bottle to be a better choice for solar heating of a beverage.

Any dark color would work so if you want to color coordinate your solar water bottle to your kayak color, I am sure you could do that without much reduction in performance. These bottles came in several colors, red and blue being two I remember.


To: Newfolboter

I tried this experiment to see if it was possible to have a hot drink ready when I pull my kayak up on shore at lunch or in the afternoon. And assuming the sun is shining, it is possible to have a quick warm drink ready by using a lighweight, inexpensive system. I kayak for fun and this is just one more system to make each trip a little better.

[Pastor Mark]

Have you thought of using the chemical meals that I see in the backpacking stores and places like Fleet/Farm? There is one that is a rather large pouch in which you can heat freeze dried meals, using it up to 11 times. This at least would not use an open flame and by being sealed, would not spill its contents.

[Ken Hartlein]

Give up on the stove Ann, just find some more of those veggie MREs and open and eat, open and eat, open and eat. No fuss, no mess, no onboard fires, no sinking GIIs. ha ha.

[jorgesgs]

Just bought a GII and am already planning my first expedition into the Amazon rain forest in it (5 days down streem the Pacaya River, in the Pacaya National Reserve of Peru)

There will be no land to camp for at least 3 night. Sleeping and cooking on board is a must.

For the cooking I am deciding between a flotable wooden canoe shapped surface that I would tie to a pole or stick to keep it a few feet away from the GII (New Guinea river tribes do live cooking on board their canoes) or, the option I am thinking is the best so far, make a metal container to keep a camping propane stove and a pot in it secured to the outrigers, a feet and + away from the GII. In that way if anything falls, it will spill on the river and not on the GII.

I made a quick search of this forum and was surprised not to find something like this, something to attach to the aoutrigers where to place a small propane treking stove and a small pot.) In anyone has done anything similar please post it.

Thanks.

[Folded Up]

Annd,
I am late to the conversation but for what it is worth here goes. The Jetboil is an excellent stove and I do not believe that adapting it to a larger fuel can is necessary unless you are melting a lot of snow. The stove and pot attach as a unit and there is an available climbers kit that could allow you to hang the stove from the boom. That should eliminate your spill problem. There is no hot part to the stove even when it is running except the aluminum rim at the top of the cup (that can hurt on a quick drink) and the ring where the pot and stove attach. After using a Jetboil for 12 days on the John Muir trail, boiling water for oatmeal each morning, I used 3/4 of a small canister. If this is not satisfactory there are othert climbers stoves available that could also be hung below your boom.